Wednesday, July 30, 2008

New Open Thread

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World Youth Day 2008

Commenter "MQ" suggested that we start a thread about World Youth Day, which just happened in Australia last week. The L.A. Archdiocese had over 140 in their "official" group, around 20 of which were from St Denis.

If you have any experiences to relate to all those of us who did not get to go, please share them here!

St Paul Sessions #5; Tuesday 29 July

Session 5 was held on Tuesday, July 29 from 7:15 to 9:00 pm. Msgr. Loughnane presided. There was a good turnout; 16 round tables with 4-6 people per table. Many people may have stayed home due to the earthquake.

Msgr. provided several handouts;
o His notes for session 5 (copies of his overhead projector slides)
o “Food for the Journey” This Month’s Scriptures: Paul the Letter-Writer
o Poster advertising a one man show on Sept. 22 at 7pm presenting “Saint Paul—In His Own Words”
o Editorial by Peter John Cameron, O.P., “Jubilee Year to the Apostle Paul: The Life of Saint Paul” (part 1 and part 2)

Msgr. covered 2 Corinthians 10:1-13:13 and Galatians 1-6:11-18

2 Corinthians—Last 4 Chapters
Paul stayed in Corinth several times; one time for 18 months when he founded the Church there.

Paul was accused of being “not a great speaker (humble), better as a writer (bold)”.
To counter this, Paul threatens to be bold in person.

Paul provide much sarcasm and scolding in these chapters (10:15-17).

Paul was given a “thorn in the flesh” so that he would not be proud. This was a weakness that leads one to evil—it is not clear what it was for Paul. The Lord’s glory shines through Paul’s weakness; we should do the task and allow the Lord to work through us.

Paul will return to Corinth but he is afraid of what he will find especially those who sin and do not repent.

Letter to the Galatians:
Msgr. has a DVD n the life of Paul which shows some of the punishments the Apostles suffered at the hands of the Romans, especially “40 lashes minus one”.

Note that these sessions are taught in the same sequence recommended by the Ligourian article that was provided at the first session.

Galatians is an authentic Paul letter written about 54-55 ce.

Galatia is now Central Turkey. The letter was written to the gentile converts to address other missionaries who were teaching Mosaic Law including circumcision and the following of the Torah. They questioned Paul as one NOT taught by Jesus and not of the chosen 12. This is similar to how the Pharisees challenged Jesus for not following the law.

Paul proclaimed the basic Christian truth that our relationship with God is not restored by legal observances, but through accepting God’s call to follow Jesus.

Paul also maintained that he was personally called by Jesus himself (on the road to Damascus).

There are about 180 references in the Old Testament to the coming of the Messiah; most in Isaiah, most appear in our liturgy around Christmas.

The new life in Jesus Christ is central to Paul’s thoughts.

The account of Paul’s conversion and his meetings with Peter and James (the brother of the Lord) at about 3 years and 14 years after Paul’s conversion is of historical importance. Paul is a witness to what was happening with the Church of Peter and James in Jerusalem.

Description of the World Youth Week in Australia:
Msgr. provided a few comments about the trip.

16% of the people in Australia are Catholic, 21% are atheist, and 23% are agnostic.

The “kids” were well behaved and there were no real problems with the police.

On Friday 13 stations of the cross were celebrated across the city of Sydney with each station in a different venue and much walking in between. It took about three hours.

It is winter there and the sun goes down about 4:30 pm. It was cold for the kids sleeping in the fields. Angie said she slept with her shoes on!

On Sunday, Pope Benedict confirmed 24 young people, 12 of them were from Australia.

Overall a wonderful experience; #5 for Msgr. and #3 for Angie.

Benedict was the “sheriff” before, but now he is the “mayor”. It is good to have a Pope who can walk briskly.

Msgr. was very impressed with the Prime Minister there who expressed his appreciation for all the missionaries that had come to Australia. On the last day he appointed an ambassador to the Vatican.

Friday, July 25, 2008

LATIN Mass?

Please kindly let me know if you have a LATIN Mass at your church.
May I have a response?
Thank You,
Prudence Podda

Thursday, July 24, 2008

St Paul Session #4

Session 4 was held on Tuesday, July 22 from 7:15 to 9:00 pm. Fr. Sebastian presided. There was a GREAT turnout; 16 round tables with 5-8 people per table.

Anita started the gathering by noting that the Pope’s message from World Youth Week in Australia was—make time for personal prayer!

Fr. Sebastian remarked that today was the feast of Mary Magdalene and she shows us that there is always a possibility of change—change for the better.

Fr. Sebastian provided a copy of his notes (attached, see p. 13-17) that were presented as a series of overhead slides.


Fr. Covered the first part of 2 Corinthians; Chapters 1-9.15. St. Paul was a tremendous example of conversion to Christ and we will be hearing more about this over the 9 weeks.

For 2 Corinthians we need to understand the background—why Paul wrote the 2nd letter. Paul formed the Church in Corinth and later sent Timothy to teach there. But Timothy reported that there were lots of problems in the Church. So, Paul went back himself and he was humiliated and rejected by the people. He went back to Athens and wrote a letter to the people instead of making another trip. He expressed his emotions in a tearful manner. Titus took the letter and the people were very moved. In fact they sent Paul money to help the Church in Jerusalem. Paul responded in another letter to their generosity. Thus, 2 Corinthians is made up of a number of letters from different times.

There are three main parts to the letter;
I. Crisis, chapters 1-7
II. Theology of Sharing, Chapters 8-9
III. Response to challenges to Paul’s authority, Chapter 10-13

Parts I and II are covered today and part III will be covered next week by the Msgr.

Apollo preached the philosophy of Plato—wisdom and freedom. His followers were called the Spirit People. They emphasized the Glorified Christ. Later St Paul showed the people that you cannot separate the Glorified Christ from the Crucified Christ—they must go together.

In these early days the center of the Church moved form Jerusalem to Antioch and then finally to Rome.

The Jewish Christians of the time (Judaizers) came from Antioch and emphasized the Mosaic Law. In contrast though this, Paul taught conversion to the gentiles, and not rituals. A representative sent from the Church in Antioch (a Judaizer) came to Corinth and questioned Paul’s authority to teach-he did not have a letter of introduction from a Church, and he was not teaching per the Mosaic laws.

Paul’s response to this challenge included:
Smart Diplomacy
Crisis Management
& Forgiveness

Any community has ACTORS = the performers (get things done)

And REACTORS they need to move up

In a typical community of family you find;
1. Leaders
2. Contributors—all can contribute their gifts
3. Sleepers—indifferent or passive
4. Critics—ok only if constructive
All members of the community should strive to be #1 or #2.

St Paul explained a Theology of Ministry;
God is the source of authority, not another Church via a letter of recommendation. In Paul’s case Jesus asked him to preach (on the road to Damascus), he founded the Church of Corinth, and the people of Corinth are thus his recommendation letter.
Appreciation of the Superior Status or Quality of Christian Ministry;
The New Covenant which is written on our hearts leads to glory and freedom
While the Old Covenant which is being renewed is written in stone and is external leading to death
A Christian community is based on love for one another, not on rituals.
Paul’s ministry is the extension of Jesus’ ministry.

St Paul said that suffering/sacrifice and life are inseparable (starting with birth)—
Jesus created new Life (in the New Covenant) by his suffering
A minister must also be willing to sacrifice
Leading to Apostleship

Note that all religions except 2 (Buddhism and Janusism) believe in resurrection in some manner.

Resurrection of the body leads to a continuity from mortal to risen
A transformation
To view a person as a Spirit, a New Creation

We are HOLY by participating in the mission of Jesus; reconciliation.

Part II covers the interdependence/connection of the various churches throughout the world, especially with respect to money
Bounty shared among the various churches
Will lift up others and give them Life

Wednesday, July 16, 2008

The Year of St Paul Session #3

Session 3 was held on Tuesday, July 15 from 7:15 to 9:00 pm. Fr. Sebastian presided. Fr Dennis was called away on family business. There was a GREAT turnout of over 100 parishioners. The hall was filled! Extra tables had to be set up!

Fr. Sebastian provided a copy of his notes (attached, P. 7-12) that were presented as a series of overhead slides.


Fr. Covered the second part of 1 Corinthians; Chapter 7-16. In this part Paul is responding to problems that threatened the UNITY of the Church in Corinth.

Five important areas are covered that relate to a credible Christian life (see the notes), for each area the problem/issue is stated and Paul’s answer is provided.

For 1—Marriage, Celibacy, and Divorce Paul is very much influenced by PAROUSIA—the end of time or the second coming. In these days men could divorce women but women could not divorce men! The new Christians believed that baptism was a rebirth & provided freedom so there was a tendency to “kick the men out of the house” by many of the women. Paul advised them to live out their baptism in this world and treat marriage as a partnership and sacrament not as a contract as the Romans viewed it. Paul also invoked the Pauline Privilege; divorce is ok if the non-believer party in the marriage PREVENTS the believer from practicing his/her faith. Paul also advised that parousia is imminent and all should stay in their present state; married, single, divorced, widowed, etc.

The celibate life is not easy and not for everyone; all should pray for the celibate men and women to give them strength.

For 2—The question of eating meat that had been offered to idols—which was a scandal in the community. Paul advised to hurt none of the Christians and to avoid sin in all its forms, giving up any “privileges” to avoid offense to brothers and sisters.

For 3—The issue of women’s headdress and the length of the hair. It is NOT about subordination. Conventional appearance shows respect and decency. Customs such as these can change but the customs must be respected. Paul was against short hair based on the interpretation of the 2nd Chapter of Genesis; man came from God and woman came from man. So when a woman does not cover her head she shows disrespect to God—trying to be like God. Also in Genesis chapter 6 angels are tempted by women who do not cover their heads; so this should be avoided. Today we need to be respectful and wear appropriate dress when we come to mass. Remember that Christ is present in the Eucharist and we should dress for him at least as well as we would dress for a meeting with the Pope!

On this issue of discrimination in the celebration of the Lord’s supper; The rich people often gathered before mass to share a meal but the poor were only invited to the “reception”. Paul recommended an examination of conscience in such matters and the promotion of communion and conversion within the whole community. The washing of the feet by Jesus was symbolic of cleaning up and getting back on the path of Christ before receiving the Eucharist.

For 4—The Sharing of Gifts and talents; The church consists of one body made up of many parts that cooperate. The body is incomplete without all the parts.

Saturday, July 12, 2008

St. Paul Session #2

Session 2 was held on Tuesday, July 8 from 7:15 to 9:00 pm. Fr. Sebastian presided. There was a GREAT turnout of over 100 parishioners. The hall was filled!

Fr. Sebastian provided a copy of his notes (attached, p. 1-6) that were presented as a series of overhead slides.

Father covered the Letter to the Philippians and the first part of the First Letter to the Corinthians.
Father described the context and situations of Paul’s early writings; the problems that the young Church was facing.

Philippi the city was name after King Phillip II. It was a Roman city located in Macedonia. Both Italy and Turkey wanted the region of Macedonia. The first European Church was founded there by Paul in AD48.

Paul did not live there but kept in contact via letters. Philippians is a combination of 3 letters written at different times.

Corinth was the primary Greek city after the decline of Athens for jobs, business, etc. It was a pagan city with both Roman and Greek cultures. Due to its prominence, many other peoples moved there and it had a diversity of cultures. Dualism was popular with the Corinthians; Sprit and Body as separate where the spirit/soul is important and the body is not. Body and morals are not important.

People in Corinth practiced a mix of religions (picked and chose what they liked). The main problem in the Christian community there was division; Paul’s preaching vs. Apollo’ preaching. The people were following the preacher instead of following Jesus Christ. The letter of Paul seeks to resolve this difference.

There is too much “me” in our present culture. We must go back to Jesus message of sharing, community, and helping one another (one body of the Church of Jesus Christ). Paul’s letter to Corinth is thus very relevant in our current time.

Friday, July 4, 2008

Blogging the St Paul Lectures - #1

Michael Sedlar attended the first of St Denis's lecture series on the letters of St Paul, and took copious notes for the rest of us to look at. Thanks, Mike!

Here are Mike's notes:
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Session 1 was held on Tuesday, July 1 from 7:15 to 9:00 pm. Msgr. Jim presided.

There was a GREAT turnout of over 100 parishoners. Babysitting and refreshments were provided.

Msgr. Jim provided several references including:
1. Session Schedule. Identifies the topics for each of the 9 sessions in the series.
2. Notes for Session 1 which details what was covered in this first session.
3. "To Whom it May Concern; Letters from Paul" by William Parker
4. "Editorial--In Pursuit of Paul" from Our Sunday Visitor with St Paul crossword puzzle
5. "Introducing St. Paul the Apostle, His Life and Mission" from St Anthony Messenger
6. Prayer to St. Paul

Msgr. described the Life of the Early Church and the life of Paul by guiding us through the Acts of the Apostles which is the second book of the New Testament that was written by Luke. See the Notes attachment for details.

Paul was responsible for spreading the Word to most of the major cities of the Roman Empire. Peter and Paul both worked miracles in these early days of the Church. Thirteen letters in the Bible are credited to St. Paul. Of these 7 were most likely written by Paul, 3 were written by disciples and 3 were written by someone who knew Paul. The book of Hebrews was also most likely written by someone who knew Paul.

Luke wrote Acts to "Theophilus" which is constructed from the Greek words Theos (meaning God) and Philos (meaning love).

Msgr. also provided some suggestions for the Year of St Paul:
1. work the St Paul crossword puzzle
2. read and study all thirteen of Paul's letters
3. read a book on Paul
4. make a pilgrimage to the old world or to a Church named after Paul
5. pray to St Paul (use the official prayer)
6. earn indulgences

Msgr. also discussed the First Letter to the Thessolonians. See the notes for details.

The next Session will be on Tuesday July 08 hosted by Fr. Sebastian.